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HB2795 hearing before Special Initiatives sub-committee
 2008-03-19

Somewhere between150-200 homeschoolers wait patiently in already crowded halls for nearly two hours for the hearing to actually start when it was delayed by previous hearings and moved to a different (larger) hearing room. The children in attendance were amazingly well-behaved. Thanks to Angie's family for the bright yellow stickers that ID'd the first 100 of us.

 

 

Part 1 of 6          10:31 minutes

Direct link to YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0J9vLe_69w
 

Rep. G. A. Hardaway (D-Memphis) introduces his amended bill. Now instead of testing it mandates meetings between the homeschooling leadership and the DOE.

He also comments on the tone of some of the contacts he's had with homeschoolers from near and far and states: "I'm not compelled to have to respond to individuals outside my district." Rep. John Mark Windle (D-Livingston), Chairman of this committee states he's had nothing but positive communication. Rep. Joe Towns (D-Memphis) also states he's had some unusually negative comments.

While I certainly condemn any hateful comments from homeschoolers or others I certainly understand the frustration our community felt when our contacts with Rep. Hardaway and Rep. Tommie Brown (D-Chattanooga) were consistently ignored.  Stating you were calling about HB2795 meant you were told to call your own representative or told to send an email instead. Later Rep. Brown admits she turned her phone off.

Towns provides the motion to hear the amendment and a second is provided.  Hardaway asks for the bill to be rolled one week because he promised homeschool leaders that they could have input and he only just got the wording for the amendment. Groaning from the 150 or more homeschoolers in attendance could be heard.  

 Part 2 of 6          5:59 minutes
Direct link to YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am1fp0Ih_Qo
 

 Rep. Tommie Brown (D-Chattanooga) asks Dr. Bruce Opie of the Tn DOE if they don't already have the ability to gather this sort of data already. She states that she finds a great deal of information regarding homeschooling practices and techniques on the Internet.

Opie responds that his caveat is the "transferability" of these practices to the public system much like the conversations regarding what happens in charter schools.

 Rep. Joe Coley (R-Bartlett) asks about the Constitutionality of requiring people who have opted out of the public school system being required to meet or share information possibly in violation of their religious tenants. Opie declined to opine 'not being a Constitutional scholar".

 

 

 Part 3 of 6         6:12 minutes
Direct link to YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xukQAYsEF-k

 Dr. Charles Walker, Director of the Tennessee Association of Christian Schools testified that there is already a nine member non-public school advisory council set up by the State Board of Education. Further he stated that when "the test is mandated you control the curriculum and that the freedom to teach will be taken away from us." He also states that 5 weeks ago he gave Rep. Joe Towns (D-Memphis) test score information showing how much better TACS students were performing when compared to public school students.

 Part 4 of 6          9:08 minutes
Direct link to YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDzKKGp5vsA

Rep. Tommie Brown (D-Chattanooga) expresses her dislike of Gateway testing, resents Hardaway's "raising anxiety to make a point' about Gateway tests, states she asked Hardaway to withdraw the bill, she shut her phones down when the calls against HB2795 interfered with business and that she could not support this bill "whatever it is". She gets applause from the citizens in attendance.

The amendment to this bill is voted on and fails. Voting AGAINST the amendment: Brown, Coley, Lollar, Windle and Winningham. Voting FOR the amendment: Towns.

This means the bill is back to it's original form---testing of non--public schoolers.

Hardaway comments again in an effort to ensure no one is confused about the fact that he's amended the bill and it's not about testing now. He reiterates his concern that homeschoolers have a voice at the DOE table.

Debbie Landers of the Tennessee Association of Non-Public Academic Schools states that she is the homeschool representative on the SBOE's non-public school advisory board. Hardaway, who is seated next to her asks, off microphone and without recognition from the Chair, if she's satisfied with that level of participation. She responds yes. She further states that she told Hardaway previously that this advisory committee existed.

 

 Part 5 of 6           9:02 minutes
 
Direct link to YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfWV2AO2lB0

HSLDA attorney Dee Black testifies and states:
  • 80,000 HSLDA member families. 3,000 member families in Tennessee.
  • This bill would violate NCLB which, due to the effort of HSLDA, specifically states that homeschoolers are not subject to these tests and requiring such could jeopardize Tennessee's NCLB funds.
  • The bill is unconstitutionally unfair.
  • Responds to Rep. Ron Lollar's (R-Bartlett) question that it would certainly pose a significant constitutional question regarding the religious rights of some homeschoolers.

 

While I'm very thankful for the streaming video provided by the State you do miss some things. During Mr. Black's testimony what you can't see in the video provided from the State is that Rep. Tommie Brown (D-Chattanooga) leaves her seat and comes down to chat with Rep. G. A. Hardaway (D-Memphis). She then goes and speaks to the Chairman of the Committee Rep. John Mark Windle (D-Livingston). After that   Rep. G. A. Hardaway (D-Memphis) goes up to have a word with Rep. Joe Towns (D-Memphis).

   

 Part 6 of 6          7:10 minutes
 
Direct link to YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a57eBieQ9RE

I have to express my admiration for Chairman Rep. John Mark Windle's (D-Livingston) handling of this bill despite the obvious efforts of its sponsor to avoid a defeat. It's been a long month for homeschoolers and the legislators on this committee and Windle brings this all to a close by insisting the bill will be voted on then and there. He recaps exactly were the bill stands. Rep. Joe Towns (D-Memphis) asks to have the bill rolled. Windle asserts his authority as chair and firmly states the bill will be voted on further stating that no discussion can take place. The only other thing that can happen is a motion to adjourn the meeting which is then offered by Towns. The motion to adjourn fails.  Windle is patient, firm and out of professional courtesy allows another comment from Rep. Tommie Brown (D-Chattanooga) who isn't sure what's being voted on now and thought the bill had been killed. A parliamentary inquiry from Rep. Ron Lollar (R-Bartlett) who states the bill should be voted on. Again, Windle calls for a roll call vote on the original bill.

Voting NO: Brown, Coley, Lollar, Windle. Voting YES: Towns. Present but not voting: Winningham.

Grateful homeschoolers and their supporters break out into applause and whoops of thanks and delight. 

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